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Tell us what you want to knowGet in touch hereScores & FixturesScores & FixturesScroll LeftScroll RightPremier LeagueFull timeFT ArsenalArsenal3 Nottm ForestNottingham Forest0League Cup SwanseaSwansea Cityplays Nottm ForestNottingham Forestat20:0020:00 onWedthe17 ofSepPremier League BurnleyBurnleyplays Nottm ForestNottingham Forestat15:0015:00 onSatthe20 ofSepUEFA Europa League BetisReal Betisplays Nottm ForestNottingham Forestat20:0020:00 onWedthe24 ofSepPremier League Nottm ForestNottingham Forestplays SunderlandSunderlandat17:3017:30 onSatthe27 ofSepUEFA Europa League Nottm ForestNottingham Forestplays MidtjyllandMidtjyllandat20:0020:00 onThuthe2 ofOctPremier League NewcastleNewcastle Unitedplays Nottm ForestNottingham Forestat14:0014:00 onSunthe5 ofOctPremier League Nottm ForestNottingham Forestplays ChelseaChelseaat12:3012:30 onSatthe18 ofOctUEFA Europa League Nottm ForestNottingham Forestplays PortoPortoat20:0020:00 onThuthe23 ofOctPremier League BournemouthAFC Bournemouthplays Nottm ForestNottingham Forestat14:0014:00 onSunthe26 ofOctLatest updatesPostecoglou's tactical impact was clearpublished at 13:22 BST 14 September13:22 BST 14 SeptemberUmir IrfanFootball tactics correspondentImage source, Getty ImagesAnge Postecoglou's first game in charge of Nottingham Forest has to be assessed in a measured fashion given he is one week into the job and facing an Arsenal side almost six years into their project.The Australian had limited time to put his stamp on this Forest side but a few differences were evident pointing to the direction Postecoglou might look to take his new team.The most obvious was starting with a back four. It appears the 4-4-1-1 that Postecoglou has deployed across his career is to be maintained.Stylistically, Forest aimed to build in a slower fashion - looking to establish territory higher up the pitch, rather than playing the more direct, counter-attacking style that was successful last season. Data from Opta showed that their 'direct speed' - how quickly they move the ball from defence to attack - was their joint-lowest for a game in the league since the start of last season.Out of possession, they set up in what looked like a 4-2-3-1 shape and defended in a man-marking fashion. We will have to see more from Postecoglou to know if this man-to-man approach defensively is something they persist with or if this was specific to Arsenal given their quality and rotation-heavy style.Nuno Espirito Santo by comparison, tended to set Forest up in a zonal fashion (meaning each player defended specific zones, rather than following individual players) but did use a man-to-man defence at times against the league's top teams.Forest's defensive line was set higher up the pitch than under Nuno, but they were punished for this with Viktor Gyokeres' strike. Arsenal exploited a long pass over the top of the defence for Eberechi Eze to run on to as Forest failed to apply pressure on the passer. Naturally, Forest's collective understanding of when to push up and apply pressure will improve with time.Lastly, the biggest difference between Postecoglou's tactics on Saturday with how he has set up his teams at previous clubs was the use of full-backs. In build-up, Forest played in a fairly standard 4-3-3 shape with full-backs starting in wide positions rather than inverting into midfield as has been the norm in his sides. Was this a short-term tactic given the lack of preparation time?It is difficult to make any definitive conclusions based on a single game in Postecoglou's first week in charge; however there were numerous new ideas at play against Arsenal that may become more evident in upcoming weeks.ShareWatch Premier League highlights and analysispublished at 11:12 BST 14 September11:12 BST 14 SeptemberPundits Ashley Williams and Shay Given join host Mark Chapman to bring you the action and talking points from Saturday's Premier League fixtures.Watch on BBC iPlayer hereAnd listen back to full match commentaries on BBC Sounds:Everton 0-0 Aston VillaNewcastle 1-0 WolvesWest Ham 0-3 TottenhamShare22:25 BST 13 SeptemberZubimendi scores first goals for Arsenal in win over Forest. Video, 00:06:26, published at 22:25 BST 13 SeptemberZubimendi scores first goals for Arsenal in win over ForestAttributionPremier League6:26Analysis: Postecoglou starts with a defeatpublished at 14:59 BST 13 September14:59 BST 13 SeptemberAlex HowellFootball reporterImage source, Getty ImagesAnge Postecoglou was only named Nottingham Forest boss late on Tuesday, so the time on the training pitch will have been limited with his new squad.Forest also have a number of players away on international duty, which would have lessened the tactical work that Postecoglou was able to do.Even so, there were some noticeable changes to the side in the defeat to Arsenal. Under former manager Nuno Espirito Santo, the Reds became known for their organised defence and ability to counter-attack.In the early part of the match, Forest did attempt to pressure the Gunners higher up the pitch but were forced back by the excellent Arsenal side.Supporters will not have been too hopeful heading to north London with Forest winning only two of their past 16 matches against Arsenal, and both of those came at home.Postecoglou again will not have much time to implement the expansive style he is known for, with a Carabao Cup game against Swansea City on Wednesday.ShareArsenal 3-0 Nottingham Forest: What Postecoglou said published at 14:59 BST 13 September14:59 BST 13 SeptemberTo play this video you need to enable JavaScript in your browser.This video can not be playedMedia caption, Nottingham Forest boss Ange Postecoglou spoke to BBC Match of the Day after his side's defeat to Arsenal: "Disappointed with the outcome. It's not nice losing any game. They're a very good side and pretty formidable at home. But even in that context, it's disappointing."The players gave everything they could, they had the right endeavour but the second goal pushed it away from us."It's been a really disruptive week for the players, I've tried to keep things really simple this week, we've only had one training session together but hopefully now we can start bedding in some of the principles we need to."On only making one change from last game under Nuno Espirito Santo: "I just didn't think it was the time to disrupt them even further. They at least had the core of the team together so there is some cohesion there and some understanding rather than just throwing guys even."But I thought the guys who came on showed a little bit of brightness and promise, which is great for us. We've got plenty of games coming and they'll all get an opportunity."You only have to look at how we performed last year, they're very disappointed obviously but I've got to understand that they're human beings and a week ago their world was very different to what it is now."On the squad: "I'm really happy with the squad. A lot of players haven't had an opportunity yet or were signed late in the window but that will be rectified over the next few weeks and once we've had some game time, I'm more than happy with this squad."Elliot Anderson is an outstanding footballer, watching him at close quarters today was brilliant. There are others, I was really impressed with Dan Ndoye today. Neco Williams was outstanding today."There is a strong mindset within the senior core of the group. I'm still as excited as the day I signed, I knew today would be tough but you have to take your medicine and move on."On looking refreshed: "Whenever a manager looks tanned and well rested, it means he is out of a job so I'd rather not be looking so well and pale."Speaking to TNT Sports about the job ahead of him, he added: "It hasn't been an ideal prep for the players and you have to take that into account. All you can ask for is effort and unfortunately, against a very good opponent, today was a bridge too far."This is a group of players who showed last year how hard they fight for each other. Disappointment today but there's only one way to respond."They're all big jobs. I haven't taken over an easy one yet but that's why I'm here. I love the challenge and we'll get to where we want to."On Murillo's injury: "Looks like just a knock, so hopefully with some rest he'll be OK."Did you know?Nottingham Forest are winless in their past three Premier League games (D1 L2), last enduring a longer winless run in the competition in April 2024 (run of four). Meanwhile, they have failed to score in successive Premier League matches for the first time since that April 2024 streak.ShareArsenal 3-0 Nottingham Forest - send us your thoughtspublished at 14:28 BST 13 September14:28 BST 13 SeptemberWhether you were at the game or following from elsewhere, we want to know what you learned.Have your say on Arsenal's performanceWhat did you make of Nottingham Forest's display?Come back on Monday for a selection of your repliesShare14:28 BST 13 SeptemberArsenal see off Postecoglou's Forest, published at 14:28 BST 13 SeptemberArsenal see off Postecoglou's ForestAttributionPremier LeagueComments921Arsenal v Nottingham Forest: Team news published at 11:27 BST 13 September11:27 BST 13 SeptemberIt's a full debut for Eberechi Eze but there is no place for Declan Rice in Arsenal's starting line-up, with the midfielder settling for a place on the bench.William Saliba is not in the matchday squad as he's still recovering from injury.Arsenal starting XI: Raya, Timber, Mosquera, Gabriel, Calafiori, Zubimendi, Merino, Odegaard, Eze, Madueke, GyokeresSubs: Arrizabalaga, Hincapie, White, Martinelli, Trossard, Nwaneri, Rice, Lewis-Skelly, DowmanDouglas Luiz, a summer signing from Juventus, is on the bench for Forest as the Brazilian looks for his first minutes in a Forest shirt.Nottingham Forest starting XI: Sels, Williams, Murillo, Milenkovic, Morato, Anderson, Sangare, Gibbs-White, Ndoye, Hudson-Odoi, WoodSubs: Victor, McAtee, Hutchinson, Boly, Luiz, Kalimuendo, Bakwa, Savona, YatesShareFollow Saturday's Premier League games livepublished at 11:21 BST 13 September11:21 BST 13 SeptemberThere are eight games in the Premier League on Saturday and BBC Sport will bring you every moment.Arsenal v Nottingham Forest (12:30)Bournemouth v BrightonCrystal Palace v SunderlandEverton v Aston Villa - listen on BBC Radio 5 LiveFulham v Leeds UnitedNewcastle v Wolves - listen on BBC Radio 5 Sports ExtraWest Ham v Tottenham (17:30) - listen on BBC Radio 5 LiveBrentford v Chelsea (20:00)Kick-off times 15:00 BST unless statedFollow all of the action and reaction hereYou can also listen to today's 5 Live Premier League commentaries on most smart speakers. Just say "ask BBC Sounds to play Everton v Aston Villa" or "ask BBC Sounds to play Newcastle v Wolves", for instance.Find out more about how to listen to Premier League football on BBC SoundsShareArsenal v Nottingham Forest: Key stats and talking pointspublished at 19:23 BST 12 September19:23 BST 12 SeptemberTom McCoyBBC Sport journalistFormer Tottenham boss Ange Postecoglou takes charge of his first game as Nottingham Forest head coach, returning to north London to face Arsenal. BBC Sport takes a look at some of the key themes before Saturday's match.Arsenal paid out approximately ￡250m on transfers this summer, taking their overall spending under Mikel Arteta to nearly ￡930m. When a handful of minor sales are accounted for, their net spend in the most recent window was ￡240m, the highest figure in the top flight, with Liverpool (￡222m) the only other club to break the ￡200m mark.Those numbers will bring even more scrutiny and pressure on the Gunners, who have not won the league since 2004 and have gone five years since lifting the FA Cup, their only major trophy under Arteta.Defeat at Anfield last time out was certainly not a terminal blow to their title ambitions, but registering just a single shot on target highlighted a familiar failing. Arteta's side scored 69 Premier League goals last term, 22 fewer than in 2023-24, with the number of shots also falling by 111. That drop-off in attacking threat ultimately prevented them from running eventual champions Liverpool close.It is well documented how crucial set-pieces are to Arsenal, and four of the Gunners' six goals this term have come in that manner. But aside from restarts, the Londoners have struggled to break down opponents, with their expected goals figure from open play just 1.54, the second lowest in the league.Three games – including tricky away trips to Manchester United and Liverpool – obviously represents a small sample size. Arteta will still be confident that when new arrivals - such as Eberechi Eze, Noni Madueke and Viktor Gyokeres - are fully up to speed, Arsenal's attack will click.Postecoglou's swift return Nottingham Forest also have a host of summer signings to integrate, having spent approximately ￡190m on 13 new players, but all eyes on Saturday will be on the man in the visitors' dugout. Postecoglou was named as Forest head coach on Tuesday, just 95 days after being sacked by Spurs.The Australian didn't win a north London derby as Tottenham boss but guiding Forest to their first victory on Arsenal turf since 1989 would be the perfect way to win over any sceptical supporters who doubt the wisdom of dismissing Nuno Espirito Santo.The Portuguese left the City Ground following a deteriorating relationship with owner Evangelos Marinakis and tension with Edu, the club's recently appointed global head of football. But Nuno's legacy mean he is unlikely to be out of work long – he took Forest into Europe for the first time in 30 years and leaves with the highest Premier League win percentage of any manager in the club's history.ShareSutton's predictions: Arsenal v Nottingham Forestpublished at 18:22 BST 12 September18:22 BST 12 SeptemberI am not expecting an extreme change from Nottingham Forest in Ange Postecoglou's first game in charge.Sure, he will tweak things, and he has got his principles where he likes to play attacking football, but I can't imagine him going in with a high defensive line in his first game, especially against Arsenal.A return to north London is pretty much as tough a start as he could get, even though Arsenal have a few injuries with Bukayo Saka, William Saliba and Kai Havertz ruled out.There is so much talent in the Arsenal squad now that they are still so dangerous - Noni Madueke was excellent for England against Serbia, and he will be full of confidence after that display.This might be another game where Arsenal have to grind a result out, but they will find a way of winning it.Sutton's prediction: 2-0Read the full predictions and have your say here Share'Players must be ready for Ange-ball immediately'published at 16:24 BST 12 September16:24 BST 12 SeptemberNick MashiterFootball reporterImage source, Getty ImagesIn the second part of what life under Ange Postecoglou might be like, Nick Mashiter considers how the former Tottenham manager goes about his business. You can read part one lower down this page.The players must be ready for Ange-ball immediately, there will be no half measures, no steady introduction. He knows the way he wants to play - whether it was criticised at Tottenham or not - and they will be asked to do that from day one. The counter-attacking game which served Forest so well under Nuno will remain to a point - Postecoglou will utilise it - pressing and possession will be quickly brought in. The clarity will be there and he will demand commitment but he is good at selling his vision, looking for players to follow him. He will invariably pick his team the day before a game but sometimes may not name it until matchday, although with 10 v 10 games in training - the likely starting line up against others - players will know the expected team.Post match he keeps many thoughts to himself, opting to reflect on the result and performance rather than any instant reactions, a ploy many managers use. Come Monday morning there will be a meeting to debrief the game with a video of around 10 minutes. It will review the structure, how players have reacted to losing the ball, penetration, attacking the box. This will be reinforced through the season. Early on it will most likely be spent discussing what he wants to see and how the squad have executed it.His first review will come after Saturday's game at the Emirates as the Postecoglou era begins.Listen to Postecoglou speak to BBC Radio NottinghamShare15:49 BST 12 SeptemberForest forward Silva joins Besiktas on loan , published at 15:49 BST 12 SeptemberForest forward Silva joins Besiktas on loan AttributionPremier LeagueWhat can Forest's players expect from Postecoglou? published at 15:38 BST 12 September15:38 BST 12 SeptemberNick MashiterFootball reporterImage source, Getty ImagesSome players found out about Nuno Esprito Santo's exit this week from their team mates, shocked messages and phone calls going around with many on international duty. Nuno was popular, he fostered a unity in the squad and club which helped push their Champions League challenge last season. Ange Postecoglou must harness that to drive the club and squad on again. It will not be lost from within a close-knit squad and the new manager will surely recognise that. The former Australia boss, though, is usually quiet and reserved initially, preferring to get ready for business and enjoying his own space. Nick Montgomery, Mile Jedinak and Sergio Raimundo have joined as assistants along with Rob Burch as goalkeeping coach - having worked with Postecoglou at Tottenham - and they are likely to be the link with the rest of the staff, rather than the manager himself. Not to say Postecoglou will ignore others but he is there to work, professional, direct and focused. Those close to him have described him as honest, a good man, and unapologetic about how he wants to play. He will drive them on, he tells players they will be the ones on top if they will follow him there - one of the reasons for his winning in his second season statement. In his two years at Celtic he won two Scottish titles, two Scottish Cups and a League Cup, joining the club after they had lost the title to Rangers.He took them back to the to the Champions League and performed well in a 3-0 defeat to Real Madrid in Glasgow in September 2022. The hosts hit the post and had a number of chances before Madrid scored three times in the second half. Yet the performance itself was not enough for Postecoglou who told his side, despite the level of opposition, there should not be a ceiling for them. He told the squad he did not buy that Real Madrid were the superstars, he did not want to accept defeat. He wanted to win rather than just getting praise for playing well. It was a good first half against one of the best teams in the world and those at Celtic at the time were pleasantly surprised by Postecoglou's stance. Reputations did not matter and he will look to drive Forest in the same way. Share'I want the fans to dream' - Postecogloupublished at 13:31 BST 12 September13:31 BST 12 SeptemberImage source, Getty ImagesAnge Postecoglou has told BBC Radio Nottingham he wants to deliver a "generational moment" as Forest boss.Speaking to Colin Fray, Postecoglou explained: "I want the fans to dream and to almost bring to reality everything they dreamed for. The only trepidation is you might let them down but I'd much rather that than kind of fear success might come our way. I'd love that while I am here I bring a generational moment to this football club. It would mean everything I am passionate about is realised and long after I am gone there's the smallest of footprints in this football club made by me."I always want to make an impact at any club I am at. I think the only way you make an impact is to win things and creating moments that will outlast your tenure. That is my ambition at this club is to do something that hasn't been done for a long time or maybe done before. The intention is, the club is on an upward trajectory, in a good place, there are possibilities of making that real in terms of tangible success."In a wide-ranging discussion, Postecoglou explained he thinks the Forest squad has the attributes to adapt to his style of play, stating: "Yes it's a different way a little bit and a little more aggressive in its approach. When I look at this squad I see an exciting squad that can play expansive football and be effective. I don't think it's such a far reach."Listen to Postecoglou speak to BBC Radio NottinghamFind and follow your club with notifications from BBC SportShareAnderson 'arguably worth more than any of his team-mates'published at 13:30 BST 12 September13:30 BST 12 SeptemberPat RiddellFan writerImage source, Getty ImagesElliot Anderson arrived at Nottingham Forest with a reputation but little else to go on. The 'Geordie Maradona', so dubbed while on loan at Bristol Rovers had arrived in from Newcastle in a ￡35m PSR swap deal with goalkeeper Odysseas Vlachodimos and nobody quite knew where he would play or what to expect.Fast forward 15 months and he is now a full England international with an eye on the World Cup squad next summer. His player-of-the-match performances against both Andorra and Serbia clearly caught the eye of all those watching his first two appearances, with his stats excelling in all metrics.Just months after winning the Under-21 European Championship with his country, the 22-year-old is already being talked about as the nation's number six, having dovetailed nicely with Declan Rice. Saying that, he pretty much plays anywhere in midfield and knits things very nicely together, for both Forest and now England.Of course, none of this is news to Forest fans who have known of his talent since day one. For all the talk of Morgan Gibbs-White's new contract and numerous new arrivals, Anderson is a key figure on Trentside and arguably worth more than any of his team-mates.While Newcastle fans might bristle at this adulation of the Wallsend Boys Club graduate, his progression is down to the game time he has gained at Forest and the trust and faith that has been put in him.There is every chance Anderson will be on the plane to North America next summer. Then the whole world will see the player who has moved far beyond a reputation gained on loan in League Two.But before then is the small matter of Forest's season, with a new manager and Arsenal on Saturday lunchtime, and then the Europa League kicking off against Real Betis in two weeks.Anderson will take it in his stride as he always does, taking care of business as he goes.Find more from Pat Riddell at The Famous Club, externalShare12:14 BST 12 SeptemberForest defender Aina ruled out for three months, published at 12:14 BST 12 SeptemberForest defender Aina ruled out for three monthsAttributionNottm ForestAnderson shines for England published at 10:23 BST 12 September10:23 BST 12 SeptemberNottingham Forest midfielder Elliot Anderson delivered an eye-catching display in his second senior start for England in the victory over Serbia. The 22-year-old was at the heart of the action, recording 93 touches and completing 75 passes, both marks second only to Aston Villa's Ezri Konsa.He also showcased his tenacity, winning back possession eight times (the most), coming out on top in seven duels, and hitting five accurate long balls.The performance should come as no surprise. Anderson has quickly established himself as a key figure at the City Ground since his arrival, and this England showing suggests he could now be ready to do the same on the international stage.* Stats correct as per Opta and SquawkaShare'Premier League needs Ange' published at 08:22 BST 12 September08:22 BST 12 SeptemberTo play this video you need to enable JavaScript in your browser.This video can not be playedMedia caption, Former Nottingham Forest forward Robert Earnshaw believes the Premier League is better with Ange Postecoglou back in the dugout. Speaking after the Australian's unveiling as Forest's new manager, Earnshaw praised his personality, presence and style of play.Postecoglou was confirmed as Forest boss earlier this week and faced the media for the first time at his press conference on Thursday. Having previously won admirers for his attacking style and open approach at Celtic and Tottenham, he is now tasked with leading Forest into a new era in the top flight.SharePostecoglou knew Tottenham axe was comingpublished at 08:13 BST 12 September08:13 BST 12 SeptemberNick MashiterFootball reporterImage source, Getty ImagesNew Nottingham Forest boss Ange Postecoglou revealed he knew he was going to be sacked by Tottenham before winning the Europa League. The 60-year-old guided Spurs to their first trophy in 17-years after beating Manchester United in Bilbao in May. But 16 days later he was axed having finished 17th in the Premier League - 27 points adrift of Forest last season. He replaced the sacked Nuno Espirito Santo at the City Ground on Tuesday to return to management. "It wasn't great. I knew it was coming so it wasn't a surprise," he said at his Forest unveiling."It was a great three days [winning the Europa League] and I didn't want it to damage that. Whether I feel it was unjust other people make those decisions, they make those determinations. That's up to them, they have their own reasoning for it. "To be fair, I've done it a couple of times myself. I left Celtic and I'm sure they were disappointed. You understand that's part of the business we're in. But that's OK. It's allowed me now to move into this and maybe things happen for a reason."What I do know is I had two years where it was very, very challenging but we were with some fantastic people. There isn't a Spurs supporter that I don't come across now that doesn't want to hug me and take me home for dinner. "So I must have done something right. I think ultimately that's what we do it for. I'm very proud of what we achieved there. It will always take a special place in my heart. How it ended, I don't really think about it a lot."ShareGossip: Jota close to completing Besiktas dealpublished at 07:52 BST 12 September07:52 BST 12 SeptemberBesiktas are closing in on a deal to sign Portugal winger Jota Silva, 26, from Nottingham Forest. (Fabrizio Romano), externalWant more transfer stories? Read Friday's full gossip column Follow the gossip column on BBC SportShare16:28 BST 11 September'I don't have anything to prove' - Postecoglou, published at 16:28 BST 11 September'I don't have anything to prove' - PostecoglouAttributionNottm ForestRelaxed, refreshed and focused - Postecoglou's first news conferencepublished at 15:56 BST 11 September15:56 BST 11 SeptemberNick MashiterFootball reporterImage source, Getty Images"It's OK, sit down," Ange Postecoglou joked to the media as he was introduced at the City Ground.It started a 50-minute press conference where the new Nottingham Forest manager laced his answers with some jokes and character, but also underlined his determination to win at his new club.He talked about how his 60th birthday celebrations were interrupted by negotiations over the weekend - how he and his friends had planned a Hangover-style party only to be in bed by 10pm as they realised their age.But underneath everything there was the seriousness of winning and succeeding at Forest, bringing joy to the fans and how he will always stick to his principles.Postecoglou also spoke about how he knew the sack was coming at Tottenham - before he won the Europa League - as he reflected on his previous job.His time out was spent with his family, and he kidded that kidding owner Evangelos Marinakis caught him at the right time as there was no greater motivation to get back to work than the school run. It is clear the break has done him good.At the end of his time at Spurs he was on the defensive, even as they reached the Europa League final. This appeared to be a refreshed Postecoglou, ready for a new challenge.Shareprevious pagePage 1 of 42123456…42next page
